Man...this will easily be one of the funniest interviews I will have ever done for this...

Many things were different about this interview...

1. I usually do email interviews...that means I send interview questions to people via email...and that's it! BECAUSE I just don't have the time to meet entire bands or people and do face to face interviews...those take SO long especially because I like having discussions with band's to get better more personable answers...

2. With this interview...I did break my rule and did it face to face! Why? Because I know the guy's in Shepherds the Weak so well that I knew I could get some of the funniest answers possible! hahahaha...read on to understand...

So without further ado, here's one of the longest frickin' interviews I've ever done for Start From Scratch...but easily one of the best I've ever done! Hahaha...just because I laughed my ass off the WHOLE time...

Read the interview...laugh out loud...then go out and buy Shepherds the Weak's CDep entitled "Strength by Numbers" NOW!!! Peace...


Here's Shepherds the Weak's very own Tse Ting Fung!!! oops...i meant Mushie...


The interview begins outside of Evocation’s practice room where they rent out to bands like Shepherds the Weak. Terence just showed up after getting off work from Wildfire Pizza in Stanley and he brought a whole box of pizza to share with everyone.

We start the interview sitting outside with all 6 members present: Terence (clean vocals/randy blythe dude), Glenn (bassist extraordinaire – watch him slap the shit out of any bass guitar), Mushie (guitar, Nicholas Tse-look alike), JR (guitar, “I used to be thin…then I joined this band”), Mike (drums/awesome awesome guy), and Richie (screamer, First Blood wannabe).

Mushie: Shit I broke my string…
Glenn: And you don’t have any new strings?
Mushie: {looking at JR} No, do you?
JR: {shrugs his head} Nope…
Richie: Hey Riz! Look at this! The new Hong Kong hardcore style of wearing your shorts…
{I turn around and look at Richie with his shorts jacked up to his chest and he’s moshing like a moron! Hahaha…}
Richie: {he starts singing...} They drew first blood not fucking me…

Riz: OK!!! Can we get started please!!
Glenn: Yeah let’s get started…
Riz: So how did you guys all meet? Wait – who's the “leader” of this band?{Everyone points to Glenn…and then…}
Terence: That fucker over there {pointing at Glenn}
Glenn: {farts in response to Terence}
Riz: So how did the band start?
Glenn: Ummm…{the rest of the band argues about how it started…no one seems to be able to remember}
Terence: It started with Mike and Glenn…
Glenn: NO! It started with Adrian!
Riz: WHAT? Who the hell is Adrian?
Glenn: Dude! It’s that tall guy who played basketball at the hardcore/metal festival you did at the Warehouse a long time ago. You ALWAYS ask this question when I mention Adrian’s name…
Riz: {laughing} OH YEAH! Okay…so what happened to him? He started the band and you then kicked him out?
Glenn: {laughing} No…he just introduced Mike to me because he knew I was looking for a drummer and Mike was looking for a band member…
Mike: {nods his head in agreement}
Glenn: …then we had our first jam with just the 3 of us, Adrian played guitar
Riz: What did you jam on?
Glenn: Just some old Filipino songs…then after that jam I told Adrian to bring this guy named Mick up who we were going to ask to play guitar…
Riz: So how did you meet the rest of the guys?
Richie: I met Terence playing basketball
Terence: …and Mushie too
Richie: Yeah and Mushie, we played basketball together…They drew first blood not fucking me…
Glenn: Then one day these guys came up to Stormy Weather when I was bartending there…

{Then we go into some chaos here while all the guys argue about why they came up to Stormy Weather in the first place. They seem to agree that it was because it was Glenn’s birthday…then Glenn drops the bomb on Terence…}

Glenn: Dude! All I remember was later that night I heard Terence singing Craig David songs out on the street with Julie May…
{Everyone starts laughing!}
Riz: Wait wait wait…hey Terence…
Terence: {Hiding in the corner embarrassed about Glenn’s recollection of his Craig David singing days}…Yes…
Riz: {laughing} So tell us about Craig David! {everyone laughs}
Terence: Nothing much…
JR: {JR helps Terence answer the question…} “I love rimming asses” {everyone falls on the floor laughing!}
Riz: Well Terence?
Terence: JR already answered the question…{more laughs}
Glenn: Anyway, that night when I heard Terence singing like that I told Mike right away that Terence should sing because I knew he could sing…then at the next jam I asked Adrian to bring that guitar player Mick up.
Richie: …and Mick brought Mushie and Mushie brought me…{everyone laughs}
Glenn: Yeah and Terence was there and we just started jamming….
Richie: …then I remember that when they were taking a break from jamming, I was so bored from watching them jam, that I just picked up the microphone and started beatboxing…
Glenn: …then Mushie picked up the guitar and started playing the Mission Impossible riff by Limp Bizkit {everyone starts laughing}…He also came up with a riff on top of some bass line I had and it was the first time we thought that we could actually write a song. So after that I remember asking Adrian if he could ask Mushie to join us instead of Mick…{everyone laughs}
Riz: {laughing} And then what happened?
Glenn: Well it was cool…Mick couldn’t really commit but Mushie could because he was like us, we all had no jobs at that time! {everyone laughs}
Riz: So until this there was still no name for the band?
Terence: No…
Riz: So why did you guys decide on having two singers?

{They all try to remember how Richie got in the band…then Richie sings the First Blood lyrics for like the millionth time during this interview They drew first blood not fucking me…}

Terence: Oh you remember how! He was doing that Rage Against the Machine thing! {everyone screams in agreement}
Glenn: Yeah, Richie could rap, beatbox and Terence could sing.

Now, at this time we all noticed that Mike snuck off into the Evocation bandroom. Then when he came out he had a whole roll of toilet paper in his hand. He tries to quietly sneak by us as he goes to the toilet to take a shit. We ALL start laughing and realizing that right in the middle of the interview he needs to take a shit! The funny thing was that he was trying to be really sneaky about it…because he knew what was going to happen when we all found out. And he was right…

Riz: Dude where are you going?
Terence: Are you going to take a shit! {everyone laughs and we chase Mike as he goes into the toilet}
Riz: Shit! I wish we had a camera right now!!!
Terence: Yeah shit! OH WAIT! I have one!!! {Terence runs off to get his camera…we all start laughing again…} 

Then all of a sudden it got really quiet and that must’ve been a sign to Mike while he was busy taking a shit that we were up to something, so he screams…{we have this video up in this interview!!!}

Mike: FUCK!
Terence: {sneaks his camera over the stall and films Mike wiping his ass…} Hey Mike, say hello to the camera!
Mike: {looks up at the camera} FUCK! SHIT! {And since Mike’s such a sweet guy, he didn’t get angry and instead just laughed at Terence}

Everyone is dying on the floor laughing while we look at the video that Terence got from Mike wiping his ass and then Mike comes out and says…

Mike: Man! You guys! 

Then at least for 10 minutes we’re all laughing and trying to calm ourselves down from all that craziness…

Riz: Ok ok – let’s get back to it. So where did the name Milk N’ Cookies come from then?
Glenn: Well I remember that our first real jam was on September 11, 2001 the same day when the planes went into the World Trade Center!
Riz: Woah! That’s crazy that the start of Milk N’ Cookies was on 9-11!
Glenn: Yeah we jammed twice that night…

{Glenn goes on a long and boring story about meeting at Adrian’s house for dinner, then jamming, then going to a bar, and then jamming again at 1am in Yau Ma Tei…}


Riz: So what about the name?
Glenn: I remember that at that jam Mike said he needed to go home because it was late…
Mike: {starts laughing} Oh yeah!
Glenn: And then I started making fun of him saying “Why? You need to go home for your mom’s milk and cookies?”
Mike: {starts laughing…}
Riz: Man Mike! Your mom is really part of you! {I’m referring to the fact that Mike admitted to all of us earlier that day that he doesn’t buy any of his clothes! His mom actually buys him all his clothes!!! DUDE!}
Glenn: {laughing}…and then Mike said “Hey! Let’s call ourselves Milk N’ Cookies!”
Richie: {laughing}…yeah we had some other really stupid ideas…
Riz: {laughing}…what were some of the other names?
Glenn, Richie and Terence: Corned Beef, Sardines…{everyone laughs}
Riz: {laughing} Why names like these?
Glenn: Well at that time there were bands like the Filipino band Cheese and other bands like Korn…so we chose that name…{then Glenn starts reminiscing about the band’s early days…}…back then we were only jamming one hour a week…{looks at Terence…} remember the computer games?
Riz: What?
Terence: Oh yeah!
Glenn: We were all computer gaming fans!

{They all start laughing and start getting really excited to talk about their computer-dork days…}

Glenn: Medal of Honor dude!
Riz: That’s the game you guys used to dork-out to?
Glenn: Yeah we used to jam for an hour and then go to this cyber café in Wan Chai and play computer games until 4 in the morning!
{Everyone laughing…}
Richie: We even had our own team and nicknames! {everyone laughing in embarrassment…}
Riz: WHAT?!?!? DORKS!!! What were your names?
Richie: We were called Battlestar and our names were…
Glenn: Mushie was “Battlestar Soul 5”
Richie: Terence was “T-Runs”
Glenn: Mike was “Mike”
Richie: ...and Glenn was “Dirty Sanchez”
{Everyone still laughing...}
Glenn: Yeah man, the 5 of us used to play until 4 in the morning...
Richie: Right around this time Terence was working at the Go-Kart place at the old airport…{everyone screams “OH YEAH!!!”}
Riz: Oh shit? Really!
Glenn: …yeah he worked there as a mechanic…
Richie: Yeah and every month he’d get 11 free tickets so we’d go!
Riz: DAMN!!! Was that shit fun!??!? I love go-karting!
ALL OF THEM: Hell yeah! It was so much fun!
Terence: This was also around the time that they were SO broke!
{All start laughing…}
Terence: Glenn and Richie only had enough money saved every month that they could pay for buses and ONE pint of beer! {everyone laughs}
Richie: {laughing} Yeah me and Glenn would just count all the change in our pockets and see if we had enough money for buses…
Glenn: {laughing}…and one pint of beer! And we used to borrow money from Adrian! {laughing}
Richie: Dude! Remember we used to go to Adrian’s house and say “Hey Adrian, do you have anything to eat?” {everyone dies laughing!}
Glenn: {laughing} Yeah and we’d eat everything in his house…the two of us! {laughing…}

Riz: So when was Milk N’ Cookies’ first show?
Glenn: Well Mike used to play in a blues band called Helter Skelter and a guy in that band called Vince came and watched us once…
Terence: That wasn’t the first show – the first show was at Wan Chai LIVE
Glenn: Oh yeah! We played at Wan Chai LIVE early in the afternoon…
Riz: Was anyone there?
Glenn: I remember that we played with Arthur’s band. And the only reason I remember Arthur was because he was Filipino. I remember we played 3rd
Richie: They drew first blood not fucking me…
Mike: The first and second band were basically the same band. They just kept changing members which was weird…
Terence: So we were really the second band…
Glenn: There were people there but once it was our turn, the bar COMPLETELY cleared out. No one waited for us…it was just our friend Mick…
Terence: No, there was that guy up on top…
Glenn: Yeah, he was ONLY there because he was stuck there and couldn’t leave! {everyone laughs…}
Riz: {laughing} So what songs did you play?
Richie: We played half covers and 2 original songs…
Riz: What covers?
Glenn: Deftones, Coal Chamber, Incubus…
Riz: What were the original songs?
Glenn: A song called Mushroom Soup and I can’t remember the other one…{he’s totally lying…and he looks at Terence…and Terence tries to hide away…}
Richie: {Then screams out…} Dude, it was called Summer Girl! {everyone laughs and Glenn says…}
Glenn: {fully embarrassed} SHIT!
Richie: Shit! Why are you embarrassed? Its an interview so we have to tell him…
Glenn: {now laughing in embarrassment…}
Riz: {totally confused but amused at how embarrassed Glenn and Terence are…} What’s the deal with this song?
Glenn: Ok ok…it was just some funk song we made up with made up lyrics…
Richie: Yeah, it was half Limp Bizkit lyrics and…
Glenn: …and half some famous pop song at the time…{everyone laughs}
Riz: OK – so how did the show go over even though no one was there?
Glenn: I just remember being super nervous…we had never played a show before so we were nervous. I remember that Mike broke the snare drum!
Mike: {laughs…recollecting that moment…}
Glenn: So that was our first show and then we didn’t play again for another 6 months…
Riz: Where was the next show?
Glenn: Our next show was because of Vince from Helter Skelter…he came to see us play once and said that we should try to play at 48st. – that place in TST.
Riz: Wow – you played there?
Glenn: Yeah and by that time we were a lot tighter and more confident so we really went down well there! I remember we played with Cry – who are Audio Traffic now…
Riz: Sounds pretty cool!
Glenn: Then we got offered a show at Stanley Plaza by Dolores and I met her online or something…
Riz: Why did she contact you?
Mushie: Cause we’re gay…{EVERYONE LAUGHS}
Riz: Holy shit Mushie!!! That is the ONLY thing you’ve said in this interview so far!!! {everyone laughs}… “cause we’re gay”!
Glenn: {laughing}Anyway, Richie and Mushie couldn’t play…
Riz: Why?
Glenn: That’s when we started working and stuff…so me Terence, Mike and Vince played that show as an acoustic project called Lakeside Sessions {everyone starts laughing}
Riz: {laughing}
Glenn: {Starts really laughing loudly} Dude!!! This is right at the start of when Terence was going into his Incubus phase! {everyone starts laughing}
Riz: {laughing} Oh! This is the highlight?
Glenn: NO! The highlight was 6 months later…{everyone’s laughing}…he started growing his hair out long like Brandon {singer of Incubus}…
Richie: Like the “Drive” video…
Glenn: He even got his hair curled like Brandon! {EVERYONE LAUGHS}
Riz: {so shocked…} WHAT THE FUCK?! You mean you got your hair permed?!??!
Terence: {embarrassed}Well kind of…
Riz: You mean with the curlers? They put curlers in your hair?
Terence: No…I just wanted it wavy like Brandon’s hair…not permed…
Riz: Oh thank god! {laughs}…I thought you got your hair permed and SUPER curly!!! {everyone laughs}
Richie: {laughing} Man! He even bought that African drum called Djembe just like Brandon!
Riz: Why were you so in love with Incubus Terence?
Terence: Nothing really…it was just all about the Science album…
Riz: {laughing} This is so funny dude…we started the interview with you singing Craig David songs…and now Incubus! {everyone laughs}
Richie: They drew first blood not fucking me…
Riz: {laughing} Dude Richie…you’ve sang those lyrics at least 5 times in this interview so far! {everyone starts laughing…then Richie pretends he’s playing the Djembe and Mushie starts singing some weird tribal shit…everyone laughs}

Glenn: Our next show was our first show with the local bands…the show was No Boundaries organized by our friend Dolores…
Richie: Yeah that was cool…
Glenn: We were so nervous because it had Lam Kei, VS, Hardpack…
Riz: Hardpack with Joseph playing drums?
Glenn: Yeah Joseph on drums and Nelson was still there…but that was such a cool show because when we played no one left like in the expat shows…
Riz: So you think there’s a difference between expat and local shows?
Glenn: Oh yeah totally! At the expat shows everyone leaves after their friend’s band is finished playing…in the local shows there’s more respect and people stay for everyone…

         
   

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Glenn: Then our next show was the killer show was No Sars with King motherfucking Ly Chee!
Richie: Yeah!
Glenn: We were SO nervous at this show because they put us after Fat Job!
Richie: There were also other bands there like Infinity…
Glenn: Yeah all these great bands Fat Job, Hardpack, Dump, King Ly Chee…{everyone starts remembering this show}…I remember saying to the guys “Fuck! We have to play after them!” But that was the first show where kids actually moshed for us!
Richie: Yeah! It was great!
Glenn: And that’s when we realized that we wanted to do more with this band…then for the rest of that year (2003) we played more shows and I started to hang out and talk to you more…by 2004 I was listening to a lot more hardcore because of you…
Riz: What about hardcore did you like so much because until this time you guys were really into nu-metal?
Glenn: It was the aggression man… when we listened to it it always made us feel in the edge and the whole positive lyrics and community building site of it…and how it’s really open-minded…I mean, we’re not technically from Hong Kong man but the hardcore community in HK opened up and accepted us man so that really appealed to us because that’s how we view things any way.
Riz: Word…
Glenn: In 2004 was also when we met JR {STW’s current second guitar player}…
Riz: {Looking at JR…} Didn’t I meet you skateboarding?
JR: Yeah – I met you when I was skateboarding with Daryl and Danny…
Riz: Who’s Danny?
Mushie: Danny the Dawg {EVERYONE STARTS LAUGHING}
Riz: What the fuck? {laughing}
Terence: You mean the Jet Li movie Danny the Dawg?
Riz: WHAT?! Mushie the only 2 things you’ve said in this interview so far has been “Cause we’re gay” and now “Danny the Dog”! {then I notice something on Mushie’s head…} Dude, what’s on your head?Glenn: {laughing…}
Riz: You look like Rambo! {Mushie found some cloth and wrapped it around his head like Sylvester Stallone in Rambo}
Glenn: Dude…this is also before JR became fat like the rest of us! {everyone laughs}
Riz: {looking at JR…} Yeah man, I don’t remember you ever being as fat as you are now…
Glenn: {laughing} That’s what happens when you hang out with STW! You eat and drink…eat and drink…{everyone laughs}
Glenn: I also remember listening to Killswitch Engage and showed it to the guys…I showed them the song “My Last Serenade”…just the melody and the aggression it was great! I always pictured the video to be someone rising up from the water…
JR: {laughing} Yeah man! That’s what you told me back then too! {laughing}
Riz: {laughing} Yeah I’ve heard him tell me that SO many times…that’s what the Killswitch Engage video should’ve been like…{laughing}…so then how did JR join the band?
JR: My band back then called Deadvy were booked to play a show at Joe Banana’s with Milk N’ Cookies and I was really excited! Because I heard their name and people kept telling me that the guys in this band are all Filipino…
Glenn: Yeah, we were supposed to play that show but we had to back out because none of us were available because we all worked at night time…
JR: Yeah so I didn’t get to meet them then…
Mike: But he worked with me at Wildfire…
Riz: Woah! You’ve been working in Wildfire for a long time Mike!
Mike: 4 years man!
Glenn: Terence too!
Mike: Anyway…JR used to work with me and he always talked about Milk N’ Cookies…{laughing}
Glenn: {laughing} Yeah, JR didn’t know that Mike was in Milk N’ Cookies!
Mike: So one day he said something like “I want to really meet the guys in Milk N’ Cookies”…and I said, “Dude – you know I’m the drummer right?”. {everyone laughs} JR was like “WOAH!”…So our next jam I brought JR up so he could meet everyone…
JR: {laughing} Yeah I used to work at Wildfire with both Mike and Terence and my first impression of Terence was that he had a lot of attitude! {laughing}
Riz: {laughing} Why?
Terence: I was just busy working man…{everyone laughs}
JR: Then Glenn hooked up a show for Deadvy who I was playing drums for…
Riz: At the warehouse I remember that…
JR: Yeah at the warehouse…

Glenn: Then right about that time I started infecting the rest of the guys with Killswitch Engage…
Richie: Yeah…
Glenn: We were also getting really frustrated with the music we were playing then…we just felt like nu-metal was like this closed box…like we were trapped…
{everyone agrees…}
Glenn: Then came Lamb of God and that was the turning point…{EVERYONE AGREES}
Richie: Man it was the intense screaming…
Glenn: Man! It was the same feeling that everyone got when they first heard Metallica! {everyone laughs} Lamb of God was that intense to us…{they all start talking about Lamb of God for a few minutes…}

Glenn: This was also when we started writing the first version of Reborn and played it at that Levi’s show with you guys at Sai Kung…
Riz: Oh I remember that! Wow the only part that has stayed them same in that song is the whole Terence clean vocals part…
Glenn: Yeah…then we wrote…
Everyone: Hell’s Gates!
Glenn: Yeah, at this time Hardihood had finished and so Ah Ho was helping us on second guitar too…that was so cool!
Riz: Why did you want a second guitar?
Glenn: We wanted a fatter, beefier sound with a heavy rhythm and that chug sound…this was also around the time I started realizing that I wanted to change the sound of this band and I remember talking to you about it…
Riz: Yeah I remember that…I remember you wanted to become a hardcore band and I suggested just starting from scratch by changing the band’s name all together…
Glenn: Yeah so I came up with the name Shepherds the Weak after the Pulp Fiction movie right before he killed the guy…
JR: Yeah man! Samuel L. Jackson…
Glenn: And I remember saying the name to you…
Riz: Yeah and I was like what does it mean?
Glenn: Yeah and then I told you the passage in the bible where it came from…
Riz: Yeah and then the meaning really stuck out kind of representing the hardcore idea of helping those weaker and not strong enough to stand up for themselves…
Glenn: Yeah, but I remember talking to the guys about it…
Richie: And we weren’t so sure because to us, we had just established Milk N’ Cookies in the local scene…
Glenn: Yeah and we didn’t want to throw that away...
Richie: But in the end we agreed with Glenn…
Glenn: And that was December 2004 when we ended Milk N’ Cookies and officially started as Shepherds the Weak…then we played our first as Shepherds the Weak with Ah Ho on second guitar at the Tsunami Benefit with you guys at Amnesia…
Riz: Oh yeah – that was our first show with Ming playing drums…
Glenn: Yeah – that was a rad show. That was the first time I saw you mosh to us!
Riz: Because you were finally a hardcore band! {everyone laughs…}

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